Although, when faced with only Jameson and Bushmills, I will usually go for the Bushmills. Just as in an area which is largely Catholic you would expect most employees to be Catholic. It has been my favorite since discovering it at the Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco. Lived in Ireland my whole life and as an avid whiskey drinker, both scotch and Irish, Ive never encountered that conversation. I am Catholic and Slovak and do not care what the British have done to the Irish. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. It was a big hit with my fellow pilgrims. To comment on a few posts above: I am of Irish descent and remember hearing the Protestant Whiskey comments as a kid growing up in New England(I am 50 now). If you want to support Ireland, go and visit and maybe read a few history books and hopefully realise that most normal people dont give a toss about religious leanings. ** TONIGHT!! Now I have a different taste preference and enjoy Bushmills in the warmer months and back to Jameson when it gets a chill in the air. I even stayed in what was one of the hotbed cities during the troubles. For a blend, I am really impressed with the Michael Collins. Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. During this period, when the Dublin whiskey distilleries were amongst the largest in the world, the family-run firms of John Power, along with John Jameson, William Jameson, and George Roe, (collectively known as the "Big Four") came to dominate the Irish distilling landscape, introducing several innovations. In 1841, John Power, grandson of the founder was awarded a baronetcy, a hereditary title. It is a distinct and beautiful expression of the craft. I noticed a little uncertainty about spelling in the story. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. @Eamonn: always good to hear from a Dubliner. But "this couldn't be any further from the truth," says McGarry. . While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. I can solve this argument. Shortly after reading this post I dropped by Mortons to see a bartender friend. What a treat. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? If you dont beleive in god the whole situation would appear ridiculous. So any Americans who believe this, should change to Murphys at once. Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle Still love it. Mind you the order as I see it goes Knappogue 51 > Midleton Rare > Knappogue 15 > Redbreast > Black Bush > Knappogue 92 > Tullamore Dew (makes for the best Irish Coffee) > Then take your pick of the Jamesons/Bushmills/Cooley offerings. Privacy Policy | I am not trying to be offensive here, but really, it is just so dumb. I find Jameson to be a bit too sweet, I guess. Whisky is Scotch, followed by Canada. Im trying one at a time to see what I prefer. Bushmills isnt produed deep in the heart of protestant country its produced on the north coast which is mixed catholic and protestant, sure the catholic stronghold Glens of Antrim are down the road. My wifes grandmother an active protestant would not let me in her house due to my faith. He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. Cake I dont give a rip shit about religion and in fact LOATHE the typical evangelical protestant types like Swaggart, Murdoch etc. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. Peter Knox Id be all up for emigrating from US to Ireland, in a heartbeat, but I read about the job prospects there are as bad (possibly worse) than here. Having just visited Ireland, I spent time in both the north and the ROI. As a good Roman Catholic, Ive always raised my Jameson in tribute to my Irish Catholic brethren (actually I like Jameson a little more than Bushmills anyway) until, on a recent trip to Ireland with my Irish-American Wife (nee Powers), I bought a bottle of Redbreast on a lark. [7], In 1871, the distillery was expanded and rebuilt in the Victorian style, becoming one of the most impressive sights in Dublin. Had drinks in the Irish Embassy (in Korea) as an invited Englishman. I tasted the Jamesons before I poured in any ginger ale & so glad I did, Irish whiskey is sooooo much better IMHO than Scotch or bourbon IMHO. Upon this one should decide which whiskey they prefer, and not upon any religous matter. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. Mostly only Catholics or the nonreligious drink here. Heres the real question why does everyone insist on handing us shots of jameson late night in colorado? In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. Jamesons for sure. The Holy Roman Empire Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. 1 line was bottling Bushmills. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. I am definitively a black bush person but I was mentioning that while spending a lot of time in Ireland back in 1998, I saw, while visiting the Bushmills distillery, cartons of Jameson bottles on the bottling chain. Talk about confused. Get over it and drink what you feel. One of them said, My enemys enemy is my friend.. In 1998 Bushmills was part of IDL, which owned all the whiskies coming out of Ireland with the excpetion of the few from Cooley. Irish whiskeys obtain much of their flavor and color from the coating left inside the barrel from the bourbon aging process. When asked to identify "the term commonly used to refer to the historical period in which Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church," two-thirds of the general public (65%) correctly chose the Reformation. Redbreast makes for good sipping but for my budget Powers is my standby. There are some amazing ones, FYI, I will leave it at that. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. Funny, I also sought some info from a Bushmills rep when this controversy came up around St. Pattys day! But the Bushmills Distillery Reserve, a bottle of which my very, very good sister recently brought back as a gift from Belfast, is holy smoking delicious good. Redbreast was a recent taste and I liked that a lot. Looking for Irish Whiskey to use in a recipe for bread pudding I paid a visit to our local liquor store and inquired as to the best Irish Whiskey available. However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. Catholics and Protestants have a different view on the nature of the church. The Protestant/Catholic thing was explained to me as a labor dispute where a bunch of Catholic Derrymen were laid off from the Bushmills distillery or some shite. Bushmills is very proud of its long Irish heritage and yes its head distiller is catholic but if someone wants to boycott this whiskey, not for taste, but simply because it is situated in an area populated mainly by Protestants then they are the one with the problem. You will love this stuff. -as he grabbed the Red Breast off the shelf. Holy moly, From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . The truth is that great whiskey is produced in both the north and south of Ireland. I must say I enjoyed reading this thread, and I had no intention of posting until I reached #58. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. Not sure if it is available outside of Ireland, but if you can, get a hold of a bottle. Up here in Canada (BC) its quite difficult to find. Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. They also bottle Powers & Paddys as well. It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. Youd be hard to convince me it is 40 proof, much less 80. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. If you ever try a more exclusive blend or a single malt, dont dare poison it with ginger ale . In whiskey world Northern Ireland is considered to be part of the irish island so no reason to judge Bushmills to be protestant or not. The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . Powers is my number one as the every day Irish whiskey of choice. I am still cradling my Bushmills 12 yr Distillery Reserve Whiskey. [4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. All Irish whiskey is great. Tulley Dew 10 Year Single Malt! Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. I also like Writers Tears, Bushmills and the Redbreast (12 more so than the 15). The last member of the family to sit on the board was Sir Thomas Talbot Power,[8] who died in 1930,[10] and with him the Power's Baronetcy. @Burnsy and Andrew: I dont drink Guiness or Jameson (for those particular reasons) I drink Paddys or Powers Whiskey and Murphys Stout!!!! Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. It all comes down to politics in the grand scheme of things, be you Yank or Paddy. The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. He said, I guess they will have to be giving up the Guiness as well? 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Wexford, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21. Love a pleanty And since I inherited her mothers sideboard, now repurposed as the bar in my den, I shall drink Bushmills tonight. Both sides here will gradually realise that they have more in common with each other than they do with folk in ROI or England, thats been my experience. What a great treat. The numbers level out when it comes to religions those. Click here to learn how to make this and other drinks for a slushie machine! But my personal preference is Redbreast, a twelve-year pot still Irish whiskey produced at the Old Midleton Distillery and a real delight to sip while enjoying a late-night Irish breakfast of sausage, egg, pudding and soda bread. I no longer consider myself Catholic, btw. Asked the guide about it. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! Beaumont Funny, I thought of addressing that as I was wrapping up the post, but then thought, Nah, the chuckleheads who read this website arent smart enough to draw that conclusion. Guess I was wrong. Every time you raise a glass of Bushmills you are in essence raising a glass to an Irishman losing his land (and in some cases his life) to British rule!! I had the 15yr old Kilbeggan during a visit at the Cooley distillery a few years back, and it was damn tasty. I grew up thinking I was half Czech and half Irish Catholic. Powers is readily available in the Balto/Wash area. That was in fact untrue. The only option is to import a case in through the provincial liquor stores at about $35 CAD per bottle. [2], In 1791 James Power, an innkeeper from Dublin, established a small distillery at his public house at 109 Thomas St., Dublin. Thats where I paused it and jumped on to google to figure out exactly what neat meant, which lead me to this article of yours: https://jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/up-neat-straight-up-or-on-the-rocks/. By far the biggest of this selection. Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. I took a fifth of Bushmills with me in my checked luggage. I lived through this and lost people to it, and it saddens me to read this. Now as far as whiskey goes, Im a newbie to Irish stuff but tend to love it all since I am a hard drinker for 6 plus decades. . Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. A great whiskey. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? In return, Bushmills receives grain whiskey from both Midleton & Cooley. Go figure . West Virginia is the only U.S state where you can legally handle venomous serpents to prove your faith. Im redbreast girl too, but recently been sipping on the Bushmills 10, thought now Im interested to try Powers Gold Label! As a Scotsman living in Scotland, Id say I f youre worried about the religion of your whiskey then perhaps you shouldnt be drinking. Ive been to the area that Bush Mills in manufactured and its total UFV territory. Get your facts right ! When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. Instead, American Catholics drew exten sively from an earlier movement launched by Father Mathew, a Catholic friar in Ireland.1 This article analyzes the ways in which lay Catholics adapted temperance 1. Jameson has distilled fine Irish malt which has been then sold to Bushmills to use as a blend all of the way through the most controversial of times of Irish English relations to current. Ferdinand II was a devout Roman Catholic and relatively intolerant when compared to his predecessor, Rudolf II. [1] History [ edit] Irish for the whiskey 2. Tullamore Dew, rendered in most branding as Tullamore D.E.W. While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. I must have been misinformed. Is Jameson, Bushmills Really Catholic Versus Protestant Whiskey? It is Bushmills that supplies single malt (The Old Bushmills Distillery is the only one of the three in Ireland that distills only triple distilled single malt whiskey, while the Midleton Distillery produces grain & pure potstill spirit and Cooley produces double distilled single malt, grain & potstill), as well as doing the bottling for Jameson, Powers & Paddys (All from Midleton, along with Red Breast, Greenspot & Tullamore Dew). Bushmills does not, to my certain knowledge, employ Catholics as certain industries/companies are, let us say, reserved for one tribe or another in the Black North. Im an Irish barman and I am stunned by the ignorant waffle that some Irish Americans spew about the oul sod. Ive tried to correct his misinterpretation but he thinks his name is funnier. The root of this myth lies in the fact that Bushmills is located in the predominately Protestant and still British Northern Ireland. Trust me on this. Only if you are an idiot! Bourbon distillers only use barrels once, as the liquor gets its distinct flavor and color from the oak. [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. So by your logic it is fair to say that Every time you raise a glass of American Bourbon you are in essence raising a glass to an Native American losing his land (and in MOST cases his life) to British/American rule! [8] In addition, three of the distillery's pot stills were saved and now located in the college's Red Square.[8]. Then I spent another 20 minutes clicking around at random on your site, and then I ended up at this article, neatly explaining the first part of the joke. But there was a bar that had a shot of Powers and a Guinness for $7, so as you can guess I ended up drinking quite a bit of it. Required fields are marked *. I do believe Irishness & Irish politics is whitewashed for Americans and presented from a certain political viewpoint. One further chapter in the history that really debunks this myth is that between 1972 and 2005, both Midleton (makers of Jameson) and Bushmills were owned by the same corporation, Irish Distillers. Cant comment on the long term contract in Cork as I hadnt heard that, but I assume they have some sort of get out clause if there is a contract. and Rangers F.C., the two largest Scottish football clubs sometimes referred to as the Old Firm, whose support base is traditionally predominantly Catholic and Protestant respectively. Brands! So, I figured then maybe I was Protestant Irish? Now this character I met at the bar is trying to tell me its the other way around. These ideas still run deep and there are still a lot of untrue things people believe about Catholics. In a TALL glass.one shot of Understanding the church. Since the closure of the John's Lane distillery, many of the distillery buildings were demolished. All appointments are made solely on the basis of merit.. I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. While Redbreast is great, wonderful stuff, dont ever pass up a chance to sample their self-titled Middleton. Bushmills I like, but I like Irish Whisky best of all the brown stuff. @Darby )Gill: What a load of nonsense! Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. I was playing golf in Ireland, and I asked my caddy what was his favorite whiskey. [1], Historically, Powers Gold Label was the best-selling whiskey in Ireland. For the record I have had many a session all over the island both North and south. I can just say Cheers! But generally, if you like it sweet, you like Jamesons products (including Redbreast, 1780, and Powers) If you like it dry, youll prefer the Busmills lineup. I believe that Germany is the largest market for Tullamore Dew, followed by many of the Eastern European countries. Have a good one. ** What can one expect from people who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life? I will be at Ninkasis B, Thanks for having me this morning to talk about ou, Last night someone was like oh wow I didnt t, HAHAHAHA Thank you @makersmark and @whisky_in_mai_, Thank you @traveloregon for having us on the start, Over the years, people have come to associate us w, We feel like most of you who have visited our litt, Ive always been one of those people who thought, http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License, Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean). His policies were considered heavily pro-Catholic. Im coming to celebrate Repeal Da, Fall book drop. [2] Good evening All, Happy St Pattys Day. It was one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, resulting in millions of casualties. Ive always preferred the non-woodsy irish Whiskeys so Powers, Knappogue, Red Breast, and recently the Spots have been my drink of choice and never was a fan of bushmills. One happens to be located in a majority Protestant area and one located in a majority Catholic area, big deal! For the record, despite the Scottish reformation, that doesnt mean Jamieson was a Proddy. Also, you ask what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon? Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. Slainte. Assertive and complex, with lots of development and seemingly infinite dimension. Good luck and god bless Hun. 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